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    <h1
    id="on-not-scaling-lurk-a-tale-of-maintenance-federation-and-governance">On
    not scaling LURK: a tale of maintenance, federation, and
    governance</h1>
    <p>This text is important. It’s also quite long. There is no tl;dr.
    But there are some good memes.</p>
    <p>It is both long and a long time in the making as it reflects some
    of our internal discussions that started in November 2022, when Elon
    Musk completed his purchase of Twitter, and suddenly many people
    found their way to the Fediverse. This moment changed things for the
    Fediverse and also changed things for LURK. In the interest of
    accountability and transparency, we want to share our reflections on
    the matter with you all.</p>
    <p>Let’s start with the numbers. In November 2022, we welcomed 50
    new people to the instance. Moreover, many who had created an
    account in prior years also came back to hang out more, now that the
    incentive to flee away from Twitter became more pressing. To put
    these numbers in perspective, over the years, post.lurk.org had
    around 150 people active at any one time. That week the number
    jumped to 350 and has hovered around 300 since then. Hi everyone. Of
    course, LURK runs more than a Mastodon instance, and if we take this
    into account, the total number of LURKers is more in the thousand.
    However, the LURK instance is the place where the most interaction
    is taking place, and has become an entry point to the other things
    we host in many situations.</p>
    <p><img src="olUPjfz5SHi-HXdN0x7kNw.webp" /></p>
    <p>We’re happy that many of you are trusting us, and consider this
    instance to be their new home base, however, and like many other
    Mastodon instances who suddenly grew, the increase in active users
    both on our instance and across the fediverse meant that the
    workload of our server increased significantly. Simultaneously, this
    change in active accounts, both old and new, changed the vibe of our
    local instance. Several instance admins have written blog posts on
    how they scaled their technical infrastructure in response<a
    href="#fn1" class="footnote-ref" id="fnref1"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>1</sup></a> and this is our post explaining
    why we didn’t. To be sure, for post.lurk.org, we also put in many
    hours of technical work to better accommodate new folks and the
    growth of the wider fediverse. During this period, some probably
    remember how we were testing all sorts of things and how this was
    impacting the instance for better or worse. We even had to ask one
    of our hosts, Eclips.is, to kindly expand a bit the capacity of the
    server where we run Mastodon. This was not to accommodate for even
    more users like many other admins were doing at the time, not at
    all, in our case it was to be able to <em>just</em> keep the
    instance afloat with its new 350 active users! Finally, things got
    stable, and somehow post.lurk.org is considered a nice instance from
    outside. This translates in receiving many requests to join the
    instance, even though it’s explicitly closed and we are actively
    declining these. Why? The temptation to scale things up further
    could seem obvious. More LURKers the better? Well, not quite. For
    us, not scaling up was always the obvious choice for the
    sustainability of the project.</p>
    <p><img src="RFbXd8pXRCKW8qkxrIOeXg.webp" /></p>
    <p>Specifically, there are three interrelated ways in which the
    issue of sustainability comes to play for post.lurk.org. First,
    long-term sustainability of the project itself. Second, financial
    sustainability of the project. Last but not least, ecological
    sustainability of the project. All three concerns are interrelated
    and have been actively guiding us until now and will hopefully keep
    on guiding us going forward. These in turn touch on how to provide
    access to the instance in the future, how we will maintain the
    server, and what we do with the threat of Threads.</p>
    <p>In terms of long-term sustainability, the growth of the space is
    a consideration, and in particular the change in social dynamics
    that occur during moments when many new folks join a new
    environment, such as when many people (re)join post.lurk.org when
    something happens on Twitter (or whatever it’s called these days).
    That change is rooted in the tension between providing friends (and
    friends of friends) a space to network in a rich and focused
    environment, <em>and</em> maintaining that environment. On the one
    hand, we want to give to many the possibility to join post.lurk.org
    and the wider Fediverse, on the other hand, there is only so much
    that we can do as a small collective to make a wider transition
    happen. Culturally speaking, we also want to sustain the vibe of the
    space we have been creating. Throughout the years, our slow growth
    through invites and the word of mouth of friends-of-friends has
    helped with maintaining that focus and a pleasant environment. But
    in times of crisis, like in November 2022, many people needed a new
    home and, of course, this has an impact on the experience of the
    instance. So what to do? Well, the bottom line is that there is only
    so much we can, and, honestly, want to do.</p>
    <p><img src="iFfov8BmSq21IIPSNJtDFg.webp" /></p>
    <p>Since the start, we tried to focus on quality over quantity on
    post.lurk.org. This has meant that we try to maintain a healthy
    diversity—across genders, creative practices, cultural backgrounds
    —rather than aiming at opening the door to a large number of people
    vaguely connected or interested in digital media and cultural
    practices. This is to a large extent because we do this for the sake
    of it and in our spare time, so we want this to remain an
    interesting place and hub for communities of practice that inspire
    us, rather than a chore. At times, and since last November 2022,
    particularly that has meant that we need to engage the brake on new
    sign-ups to be able to make sure that this sentiment keeps on being
    shared by everyone. At the same time, this means we have had to
    exclude some folks, who, as a consequence, felt left out. We’re not
    saying that the way we’re doing things is perfect, and it’s
    difficult to communicate about this choice, hence this long text. It
    can be a bit discouraging when from the outside, and from peers we
    had to decline, we hear that this reticence of letting more, and
    more-of-the-same, people is perceived as an attempt to create some
    exclusive cool kids club (true story).</p>
    <p>Nevertheless, we feel that this strategy has paid off. For us,
    one of the great things about having been involved in post.lurk.org
    is the quality of the space and how generative it has been for our
    practices versus how little time we, as an admin team, have to put
    into it to keeping it running. That is something we want to maintain
    and something that is at risk when growing the instance more and
    more. Still, we want a mechanism where people can join
    post.lurk.org. After all, even if we want to not grow, there is also
    the fact that some people join and eventually leave, some just join
    and never use their account. Some simply disappear into the ether
    after a while. That’s cool. But this means that we could potentially
    welcome new people occasionally, without compromising on our way of
    running the instance.</p>
    <p><img src="3DCjoMkpReeZYDijQbP_4w.webp" /></p>
    <p>Until now, we did this is in a relatively unstructured way,
    opening applications every now and then, and receiving suddenly a
    huge wave of messages from people explaining to us why our instance
    is meaningful to them. Filtering these applications is one of the
    most unrewarding and stressful things about this approach, all the
    while having to make important but also, at times, arbitrary
    selection. Part of the issue is because of the crappy interface for
    selection—there is no possibility to respond to an application
    outside accept or reject, for instance—but a larger part is based on
    the arbitrariness of it. The secret LURK truth is more often than
    not, people we found exciting based on their application turned out
    to not be super engaged (if at all), and likewise, people we let in
    on a whim have become some of the nicest LURKers! Of course, we’re
    not naive, and this is a social process that is not that surprising
    in community building. The point is that we feel that the
    application method is not only stressful, but also doesn’t add
    anything to existing social processes emerging in online
    communities. Let’s try something else!</p>
    <p>One of the decisions we made in November 2022 is to cap the
    number of accounts on post.lurk.org at 666 (keeping with our
    tradition of using Meaningful NumbersTM™). The past years we stuck
    with that and it has felt pleasant. And here is the plot twist,
    starting now, we will automatically remove unused accounts. We will
    warn (of course!) accounts that have not logged in for 12 months and
    delete them after 13 months of inactivity. This allows more people
    to join post, and automatically and slowly open up new spots for
    others to join, as people lose interest or move on, which is fine
    really—please send postcards, though. We will hand out invites to
    you if you request them, but we <em>really</em> still want to
    privilege both diversity <em>and</em> people that are not yet on the
    fedi. You will be for sure lectured about it once more by the
    Helpful Heron when you ask for an invite URL!</p>
    <p><img src="thecycle-small.webp" /></p>
    <p>It’s also important to say that, next to running the LURK
    instances and its other services, we are also active developing and
    offering workshops for communities to onboard the fediverse, not
    just as users of an existing instance, but as collective
    administrators of their own instance <a href="#fn2"
    class="footnote-ref" id="fnref2"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>2</sup></a>. And this is really the key
    thing that cultural workers need to understand about decentralised
    and federated social media, namely the promise of having a balance
    between online communities of practice that are humanly scaled, and
    still be able to connect and reach out to many many many others. For
    instance, very recently, it was very exciting to see the new <a
    href="https://social.toplap.org">social.toplap.org</a> instance
    emerge to give a proper hub for live coders, who until now tended to
    flock to LURK or similar places where algorithmic and software art
    is welcome (like <a
    href="https://merveilles.town">merveilles.town</a> and <a
    href="https://sonomu.club">sonomu.club</a> instances). Running your
    instance is not trivial, but it’s not impossible for a small group
    of motivated people, as we’ve seen in our workshops. And this
    instance mitosis is the kind of scaling we’d like to see more happen
    on the Fediverse instead of the emergence of heavily centralised and
    large instances.</p>
    <p><img src="eU8gcyIPReOL-nGS2uTJlQ.webp" /></p>
    <p>As mentioned above, we do this for the sake of it, and, outside
    some flurries of work on technical things or moderation issues, it
    has been fairly easy going. We want to keep it this way and are
    really keen on none of this becoming a <em>Work</em> or a
    <em>Chore</em>. Last year Brendan, both a long-time friend and an
    experienced hater of computers, joined the team to help out. He has
    been a great help with gnarly technical stuff. Others have
    approached us offering help in various ways, for instance with
    moderation, which has been useful with the current state of the
    world. Others, however, have also approached us to help with means
    of becoming larger, more professional, and we kindly rejected those
    offers because at the end of the day, that means more meetings and
    whatnot… and <em>Work</em>. What /works/ for us is to stay haphazard
    and spontaneous, the way we’ve been operating hitherto. We have an
    idiosyncratic way of working, a weird governance model so to speak,
    and we like it despite its highly artistic take on administration.
    In the context of the ATNOFS project in 2021 we did some
    introspection and came up with an honest description of such a
    take:</p>
    <blockquote>
    <p>“Specifically in terms of governance, while it might be seductive
    to go for a democratic consensus-governance model, this can also be
    a risk when it comes to starting out and establishing the space if
    the group doesn’t have enough capacity. In order to highlight this,
    we introduced an honest description of LURK’s governance model as an
    “impulsive and time-constrained benevolent eurocentric
    oligarcho-do-ocracy”. Deconstructing what this means: our governance
    model is impulsive because scratching itches / personal enjoyment
    are the main motivators for work on LURK. Time-constrained because
    everything is done whenever the administrators / moderators find
    free time to work on the server; TODOs tend to span months, unless
    they happen to be scratching someone’s itch. Benevolent, as we like
    to consider ourselves well-intended, and are willing to listen,
    learn and do best efforts given our constraints. Eurocentric, as the
    entire team is in one timezone, concentrated on four to five
    languages, and culturally homogeneous. Oligarchy,as the governance
    structure consists of a small cabal (a conspiratorial group) which
    makes executive decisions. A do-ocracy, because decisions are made
    primarily by people acting on something. Moderation decisions such
    as accepting new people to the server, banning other servers etc.,
    tweaking the technical configuration are often just “done” by those
    within the oligarchy without prior discussion. Only very difficult
    situations, non-trivial technical issues, or really large decisions
    are actively discussed in the oligarchy. All of that does not imply
    that we haven’t, for example, solicited input and feedback on things
    such as the Terms of Service to the larger LURK.org userbase.”<a
    href="#fn3" class="footnote-ref" id="fnref3"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>3</sup></a></p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Surely, there is an alternative timeline where LURK is run as a
    super structured COOP using Loomio and whatnot to implement various
    models of liquid democracy and participation, but, honestly, in our
    present timeline, our model is not likely to change soon, and we
    have the feeling that if we stick to this approach, we can stick to
    it for the long run (by the way could there be a LURK 10 year
    anniversary around the corner?<a href="#fn4" class="footnote-ref"
    id="fnref4" role="doc-noteref"><sup>4</sup></a>). Surely, we can
    improve and tweak things, but, it’s nice to appreciate when
    something works well enough and brings good feels. <em>SLAPS ROOF OF
    LURK</em>. To be sure, participatory modes of governance are the way
    forward and our position is by no means a critique of these. If
    anything, we are strong believers of direct democracy models, such
    as participatory democracy, deliberative democracy, and agonism.
    It’s just that LURK is more of an artistic driven approach to long
    term community building and server infrastructure, and we would
    rather not pretend to be otherwise<a href="#fn5"
    class="footnote-ref" id="fnref5"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>5</sup></a>. With that said, as exemplified
    with this wall of text, we are ruminating <em>a lot</em> on these
    issues and our slow cooking is so slow that it’s probably more
    accurate to describe it as fermentation. It took us 5 years to
    figure out how to have a 3-in-1 Code of Conduct, Terms of Services
    and Privacy Statement that, we felt, was strong enough. To reach
    this point, we spoke both formally and informally with many other
    LURKers and friends, but also learned from practice and from what
    other instances were doing .</p>
    <p><img src="mC-4HGEvTjCMi-lvo4u07g.webp" /></p>
    <p>Concerning financial sustainability, one of the ways we have been
    receiving (and gladly accepting) a tremendous amount of support is
    in terms of donations. We started an <a
    href="opencollective.com/lurk">Open Collective</a> in 2021 and have
    been amazed at how people have chipped in. Because we are small,
    frugal, anti-cloud and get some of our infrastructure sponsored<a
    href="#fn6" class="footnote-ref" id="fnref6"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>6</sup></a>, we have historically spent very
    little costs regarding infrastructure. The reason we started
    collecting donations was to see if we could compensate for
    maintenance labour instead, and hopefully demonstrate the value of
    such a tactic at a time when Big Tech and a misunderstanding of open
    forms of software production have led us to believe that the digital
    commons and digital solidarity are a thing falling from the sky.
    This is even crucial for us, as, like discussed earlier, we are
    often helping other cultural workers to run things themselves and
    pretending that the economic dimension does not exist is incredibly
    dishonest. (Post-)Free culture evangelism has to stop sounding like
    an obscure hypocritical pyramid scheme with only the most privileged
    ones who are able to play the game. To our surprise, soliciting
    donations has worked so far, and we have been using the majority of
    donations to compensate for sysadmin and moderation labour of the
    team. We believe we are one of the few instances where donated funds
    are used primarily to pay people, rather than cloud companies.</p>
    <p>However, we also realize that this can raise expectations on what
    LURK as a project will become, and we want to be explicit that we
    are not planning to change the nature and scale of our operation. We
    will use the funds to continue to pay for labour, keep a buffer for
    these moments where we suddenly need to fix something urgently. If
    there is any surplus, we aim to donate upstream. This can be to
    either Servus (who hosts one of our servers for free until now), or
    to Hometown the modified version of Mastodon we use (which is
    difficult as, probably for the same reason as LURK, has no formal
    structure), or to useful Mastodon clients, or to other FLOSS and
    related projects we rely on. We are still trying to figure out how
    we will make it work and it will likely take a couple of years
    before we have something that works. Fermentation. To be honest,
    it’s difficult to get a clear idea of our operational expenses in
    terms of labour, and as a result, how to best use the buffer. Before
    asking for donations we spent two years carefully writing down all
    the time we spend on maintaning LURK infra to get an idea of how
    much labour would need to be supported. At the moment we’re still
    juggling with things. For instance, we’ve now noticed that it only
    takes a few days of technical or moderation clusterfuck for our
    buffer to empty very fast. What is sure is that your ongoing support
    in the form of donations will allow us to continue this fermentation
    of community server maintenance for the long term. &lt;3</p>
    <p><img src="sharecropping.webp" /></p>
    <p>Last but not least, at the intersection of financial and
    ecological sustainability is the question of technology use.
    Sticking to the magic number of 666 accounts and operating with a
    small team not only allows post.lurk.org to socially function well,
    it also means that on a technical level, we don’t all of a sudden
    have to become DevOps cloud engineers. Growing more would mean that
    we will have to fundamentally reconsider how post.lurk.org is set up
    and installed, and then start investing in cloud technologies and
    platforms to keep things running. This is really something none of
    us are looking forward to, or are even remotely interested in, let
    alone supportive of, both in terms of the type of maintenance we
    will have to do, how much it will cost, and finally also how it sits
    ecologically. We think morally there should be a clear upper-bound
    to how much the environment should suffer to facilitate shitposting.
    From Low-Tech<a href="#fn7" class="footnote-ref" id="fnref7"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>7</sup></a> to permacomputing<a href="#fn8"
    class="footnote-ref" id="fnref8" role="doc-noteref"><sup>8</sup></a>
    to degrowth<a href="#fn9" class="footnote-ref" id="fnref9"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>9</sup></a>, several of us on the admin side
    of LURK are interested in different frameworks to reconceptualize
    computing’s relation to the environment and that practice is also
    expressed in how we run post.lurk.org. It’s also great to see how
    this interest has drawn many who share the same views to the
    instance, and are themselves active in these fields<a href="#fn10"
    class="footnote-ref" id="fnref10"
    role="doc-noteref"><sup>10</sup></a>. Currently, post.lurk.org runs
    on a fairly limited setup on a more than a decade old machine. The
    backup system likewise is made up of second hand and spare equipment
    (hosted as encrypted blobs in apartments and under work desks). So
    far, this has been workable, but unfortunately Mastodon has been
    until now designed with an unlimited growth mindset. For instance,
    Mastodon servers by default accumulate an ever-growing cache of
    remote media. On the one hand, this is necessary to be able to
    properly moderate, on the other hand, it relies on ever-growing disk
    space, which is wrongly considered as a “cheap” and easy to access
    commodity and therefore this is not considered a fundamental
    issue.</p>
    <p><img src="i2l56pBPRxKNGJ6FJabDkw.webp" /></p>
    <p>One of the things we do on post.lurk.org to counteract this is to
    frequently prune this cache on the server. That however, has some
    implications: only the most recent remote posts are visible
    instantly, and, remote profiles that haven’t been interacted with in
    a while will not have avatars or profile headers. When we remove
    remote users from the database that have not been active in a long
    time, this can this can also mean that you lose followers. Or, to be
    more precise, the “followers” counter will be suddenly lower, since
    you likely already lost those followers as the remote accounts will
    have stopped using the fediverse a long time before we remove them.
    Having said that, things like favourites and bookmarks are not
    deleted, and we also won’t delete your personal data (unless your
    profile becomes inactive for longer than a year, and we send you a
    warning before that).</p>
    <p>The reason to discuss this is that, at the end of the day, it
    also impacts the user experience, especially when the cloud mindset
    of “everything at my fingertips forever” is the default. Some of you
    use a feature of Mastodon to automatically delete old posts based on
    some conditions. At the time of writing we haven’t really decided or
    discussed seriously if it’s something we should encourage everyone
    to do and if yes, what would be the default strategy as it can be
    configured in many ways (<a
    href="https://post.lurk.org/statuses_cleanup">have a look</a> to get
    an idea of all the options!). Keeping things constantly online that
    are essentially ephemeral, or low value, feels wrong since it uses
    actual resources. If you need to keep an archive, you can export it
    from the configuration panel, and with all the clever LURKers
    around, perhaps someone can make a masto2static script to serve your
    glorious toots elsewhere (and perhaps this is something we should
    put some LURK funds towards or crowdfund?).</p>
    <p>We want to mention this because one of the big unknowns at this
    point is whether we can continue running the server as we have done
    before as the entire network grows in size. For instance, one way
    the network will drastically grow, is if/when Facebook’s Instagram’s
    Meta’s Threads becomes fully interoperable.</p>
    <p><img src="SE3W9YkGTreFRaMVgkF2vg.webp" /></p>
    <p>In conclusion, this is also where these three strands coincide in
    to our position on federating with Threads: it is weird that
    volunteer mods and admins will have to put in effort to maintain a
    connection to what essentially is a giant and badly moderated
    server. Likewise, it is weird that small alternative projects will
    have to drastically upscale their infrastructure, labour and capital
    investment to facilitate a billion dollar corporation’s regulation
    dodging/<a
    href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish">EEE</a>.
    It is weird that we will have to be decentrally storing all kinds of
    random crap from a social media empire that follows a cornucopian
    perspective on computing and actively incentivizes the production of
    bullshit at the expense of people and the planet. We appreciate that
    others might feel doing just that is sound techno-political
    strategy; more attention for the alternatives etc. The reason we got
    into to post.lurk.org is to get away from all that and try something
    else. So no, we will not federate with Threads. What is the point
    really?</p>
    <p><img src="FToAO_ZXEAkqlCg.webp" /></p>
    <p>Happy LURKing :^) Alex, Aymeric, Brendan, Lídia, Roel</p>
    <p><img src="taSj1BprSmeaHqBqoKOS6Q.webp" /></p>
    <section class="footnotes footnotes-end-of-document"
    role="doc-endnotes">
    <hr />
    <ol>
    <li id="fn1" role="doc-endnote"><p>See for instance <a
    href="https://leah.is/posts/scaling-the-mastodon/"
    class="uri">https://leah.is/posts/scaling-the-mastodon/</a>, <a
    href="https://mijndertstuij.nl/posts/scaling-mastodon-community/"
    class="uri">https://mijndertstuij.nl/posts/scaling-mastodon-community/</a>,
    <a
    href="https://blog.freeradical.zone/post/surviving-thriving-through-2022-11-05-meltdown/"
    class="uri">https://blog.freeradical.zone/post/surviving-thriving-through-2022-11-05-meltdown/</a>,
    <a
    href="https://nora.codes/post/scaling-mastodon-in-the-face-of-an-exodus/"
    class="uri">https://nora.codes/post/scaling-mastodon-in-the-face-of-an-exodus/</a><a
    href="#fnref1" class="footnote-back"
    role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn2" role="doc-endnote"><p>See <a
    href="https://txt.lurk.org/how-to-run-a-small-social-networking-site/"
    class="uri">https://txt.lurk.org/how-to-run-a-small-social-networking-site/</a>
    and <a href="https://txt.lurk.org/ATNOFS/"
    class="uri">https://txt.lurk.org/ATNOFS/</a><a href="#fnref2"
    class="footnote-back" role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn3" role="doc-endnote"><p>From LURK in A Transversal
    Network of Feminist Servers, 2022, <a
    href="https://txt.lurk.org/ATNOFS/"
    class="uri">https://txt.lurk.org/ATNOFS/</a><a href="#fnref3"
    class="footnote-back" role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn4" role="doc-endnote"><p>What is LURK <a
    href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150206001212/http://lurk.org/groups/meta-lurk/messages/topic/1Bqk3euF2ou2v8KsttTwd7/"
    class="uri">https://web.archive.org/web/20150206001212/http://lurk.org/groups/meta-lurk/messages/topic/1Bqk3euF2ou2v8KsttTwd7/</a><a
    href="#fnref4" class="footnote-back"
    role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn5" role="doc-endnote"><p>On top of that, several of us are
    involved in such models in other parts of practice and personal
    lives, whether art collectives, collectively run kindergartens, food
    coops or open source projects. There is a limit to how many of these
    things you can meaningfully take part in.<a href="#fnref5"
    class="footnote-back" role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn6" role="doc-endnote"><p>This text and our mailing lists
    are at <a href="https://servus.at">servus.at</a>, <a
    href="https://post.lurk.org">post.lurk.org</a> is sponsored through
    <a href="https://eclips.is">Eclips.is/Greenhost</a><a href="#fnref6"
    class="footnote-back" role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn7" role="doc-endnote"><p>De Decker, K., Roscam Abbing, R.,
    &amp; Otsuka, M. (2018). <em>How to build a low-tech website</em>.
    <a
    href="https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/09/how-to-build-a-low-tech-website/">https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2018/09/how-to-build-a-low-tech-website/</a><a
    href="#fnref7" class="footnote-back"
    role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn8" role="doc-endnote"><p>Mansoux, A., Howell, B., Barok,
    D., &amp; Heikkilä, V. M. (2023). <em>Permacomputing aesthetics:
    potential and limits of constraints in computational art, design and
    culture</em>. Ninth Computing within Limits. <a
    href="https://limits.pubpub.org/pub/6loh1eqi">https://limits.pubpub.org/pub/6loh1eqi</a><a
    href="#fnref8" class="footnote-back"
    role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn9" role="doc-endnote"><p>Roscam Abbing, R. (2021).
    <em>‘This is a solar-powered website, which means it sometimes goes
    offline’: a design inquiry into degrowth and ICT</em>. Seventh
    Computing within Limits. <a
    href="https://limits.pubpub.org/pub/lecuxefc">https://limits.pubpub.org/pub/lecuxefc</a><a
    href="#fnref9" class="footnote-back"
    role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
    <li id="fn10" role="doc-endnote"><p>De Valk, M. (2021, June). <em>A
    pluriverse of local worlds: A review of Computing within Limits
    related terminology and practices.</em> Seventh Computing within
    Limits. <a
    href="https://limits.pubpub.org/pub/jkrofglk">https://limits.pubpub.org/pub/jkrofglk</a><a
    href="#fnref10" class="footnote-back"
    role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
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